Current state of PyLucene

[Jeff Breidenbach]

I don't understand this. Lucene is the dominant open source
search software, and Python continues to gain popularity.
Why is there a decline in interest?

[Andi Vajda]

Post by Jeff Breidenbach
I don't understand this. Lucene is the dominant open source
search software, and Python continues to gain popularity.
Why is there a decline in interest?

Dunno. The PMC lives in Java land and doesn't pay much attention. And I stopped nagging them. As for users, there are plenty of them (?) but they don't participate or otherwise show interest by voting for releases.

Andi..

[Petrus Hyvönen]

Hi,

Just want to jump in and state my interest in the JCC part of it. I'm not
using pylucene but using another library wrapped with JCC, which is working
well.

My coding skills are not really there to help much out, but for what it is
worth I can at least state my appreciation for this project, which is to a
very large degree (totally in last years?) Andi's work. I have not been
responding in the voting for releases since i'm neither a user of pylucene
or part of any organized group.

As mentioned earlier, JCC for python 3 would be high on my wishlist. :)

Regards

Post by Andi Vajda

Post by Jeff Breidenbach
I don't understand this. Lucene is the dominant open source
search software, and Python continues to gain popularity.
Why is there a decline in interest?

Dunno. The PMC lives in Java land and doesn't pay much attention. And I
stopped nagging them. As for users, there are plenty of them (?) but they
don't participate or otherwise show interest by voting for releases.
Andi..

[Thomas Koch]

Post by Andi Vajda

I don't understand this. Lucene is the dominant open source search
software, and Python continues to gain popularity.
Why is there a decline in interest?

Dunno. The PMC lives in Java land and doesn't pay much attention. And I
stopped nagging them. As for users, there are plenty of them (?) but they

don't

Post by Andi Vajda
participate or otherwise show interest by voting for releases.
Andi..

That's a pitty. So back to the current state: the project is dormant due to
lack of interest? Or is is dead already?

If it's the users who should show more interest - I think that can be
organized. Please hands up ,-)

Already noticed some reactions and votes. I also voted for some releases
(and provided some minor code contributions) in the past, but never really
understood the voting process: always (at least) 3 members of the PMC
(=project management committee) must vote for a release, right? So votes of
ordinary users do not count at all or are just "sugar" ? (If that's the case
: why should 'ordinary' users votes anyway?).

And if members of the PMC are not interested in the project it's probably
the wrong committee ... is there a PMC for Lucene only or one for Java
Lucene and one for PyLucene? I found this website which explains the PMC
process in Apache world
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#what-is-a-pmc
.... but didn't find about Lucene PMC in particular - please point me to a
website with more details if this is available -thx.

The resource
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt
linked on the above website is read protected.


Regards,
Thomas
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OrbiTeam Software GmbH & Co. KG . http://www.orbiteam.de

[Andi Vajda]

Post by Thomas Koch

Post by Andi Vajda

I don't understand this. Lucene is the dominant open source search
software, and Python continues to gain popularity.
Why is there a decline in interest?

Dunno. The PMC lives in Java land and doesn't pay much attention. And I
stopped nagging them. As for users, there are plenty of them (?) but they

don't

Post by Andi Vajda
participate or otherwise show interest by voting for releases.
Andi..

That's a pitty. So back to the current state: the project is dormant due to
lack of interest? Or is is dead already?

It's dormant. By that I mean that no work is happening on it until interest is shown again. It can be revived any time by incorporating patches, making a release, fixing bugs, etc...

Post by Thomas Koch
If it's the users who should show more interest - I think that can be
organized. Please hands up ,-)

Users can show interest by voting when a vote is called, sending in patches, feature requests and bug reports.

Post by Thomas Koch
Already noticed some reactions and votes. I also voted for some releases
(and provided some minor code contributions) in the past, but never really
understood the voting process: always (at least) 3 members of the PMC
(=project management committee) must vote for a release, right?

Yes. Three PMC votes are necessary: mine + two others. We have a large Lucene PMC. Historically, the same two PMC members have been voting for releases. I've stopped nagging them - it became embarrassing.

Post by Thomas Koch
So votes of
ordinary users do not count at all or are just "sugar" ? (If that's the case
: why should 'ordinary' users votes anyway?).

They count in that they're a measure of interest in the project. No user votes are a factor in the project going dormant. But the PMC votes are what enable a release.

Post by Thomas Koch
And if members of the PMC are not interested in the project it's probably
the wrong committee ... is there a PMC for Lucene only or one for Java
Lucene and one for PyLucene? I found this website which explains the PMC
process in Apache world
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#what-is-a-pmc
.... but didn't find about Lucene PMC in particular - please point me to a
website with more details if this is available -thx.

PyLucene is a sub-project of the Lucene project. To get its own PMC it needs to become a top level project (TLP) and a large requirement of that is an active, preferably sizeable, community of users that contribute to the project. This is not the case for PyLucene.

Post by Thomas Koch
The resource
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt
linked on the above website is read protected.

I have readily available links to contribute, sorry.

Andi..

Post by Thomas Koch
Regards,
Thomas
--
OrbiTeam Software GmbH & Co. KG . http://www.orbiteam.de